E Ahamed, minister of state for
external affairs, played an important role in securing the release of three
Indian truck drivers who were held hostage in Iraq.
Though this is his first stint
as a minister of the Union, Ahamed has a good understanding of international
politics, especially in West Asia. Now, he is in charge of the West Asia desk at
the external affairs ministry. He will represent India in the UN General
Assembly for the seventh time later this month.
A member of the Indian Union
Muslim League, Ahamed was elected to the Lok Sabha for the fifth time from
Ponnai in Kerala. He spoke to Ehtasham Khan at his South Block office in New
Delhi about his meeting with Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat during his
five-day visit to West Asia in September.
During his visit to Palestine,
the first by an Indian leader after then home minister Lal Kishenchand Advani in
2000, Ahamed prayed at the sacred Ibrahimi mosque in al-Khalili town and at the
al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem with Arafat. Later, the Palestine president hosted a
lunch in his honour at his home in Ramallah.
What was the
objective of the visit to Palestine?
India has been maintaining a
very special, cordial relationship with Palestine for many decades. India was
the first non-Arab country to recognise Palestine. The new government (led by
the Congress) in its Common Minimum Programme mentioned categorically that India
will give a new thrust to our relationship with the West Asian countries and
declared support to the Palestinian people's right to land of their own. Later
there was a proposal to send them (the Palestinians) 12 Tata Sumo vehicles and
medicine worth Rs 1 crore.
I could not go earlier because
of the hostage crisis in Iraq. So later I took these gifts with me and had a
meeting with President Arafat, which was a landmark meeting. President Arafat is
a household name in India and a hero. India considers him a symbol of the
Palestinian cause.
On behalf of the prime
minister, I handed him a letter of support and said India's support (to
Palestine) will continue and we hope the Palestinian people's dreams are
realised. Restriction on the movement of President Arafat is uncalled for. It
will be politically counterproductive. It should be removed. Any effort to
exclude him or eliminate him from the scene will only compound the difficulties.
Arafat is an elected leader of
Palestine. Restriction on him is not acceptable to the people of Palestine and
the international community.
We also have
a healthy relationship with Israel. So what message are you giving Israel?
We are giving a message to the
whole world that India will support the Palestinian cause. We urge the
international community to withdraw historical injustices imposed on the people
of Palestine. India will join all efforts to bring justice.
How do you call your meeting
with Arafat a landmark?
Landmark because we consider
our relationship as one of our declared policies. We consider that Arafat has
been put to a lot of restrictions and we had to express our solidarity with him
on behalf of the people of India. Mr Arafat also expressed his deep sense of
gratitude to the prime minister and to the people of India and its political
parties. He said India has sent a minister (to Palestine) at a crucial time of
difficulty.
People ask about India's
relationship with Israel. Of course, India has a diplomatic and bilateral
relationship with Israel. That's a different compartment. This relationship
(with Palestine) is not directed towards any third country. We will take special
care to ensure that our relationship with Israel shall not have a negative
impact on our relationship with Palestine.
You have been quoted in
newspapers as saying that you will take this issue up with the Israeli
government?
I did not say anything like
that. Somebody asked me, so I said that whenever I happen to see an Israeli
leader, I will definitely raise this issue. Arafat is a friend to me. He
described to me the situation there with the help of maps and other documents.
Even now, Muslims have a lot of difficulty in visiting the al-Aqsa mosque and
Christians face problems in visiting Bethlehem and other churches.
Is your meeting going to
make an impact on the politics and the situation there?
That you have to say. Why
should I say?
The previous government led
by the Bharatiya Janata Party had an inclination towards Israel.
I don't want to make any
comment about the previous government. I am telling you what my government is
doing.
After the change in
government, has there been any shift in the policy of the Government of India
regarding Palestine and Israel?
India's foreign policy was
framed by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and all successive prime ministers have
followed that. The policy was started by the Congress. Now that the party is in
power again, it is following the same policy. What is wrong in it? If somebody
made a shift, it is their own. The focus and fundamental principles of India's
foreign policy were made by Jawaharlal Nehru. National concern is the basic
thing.
What has
India gained so far strategically from its pro-Palestine policy?
Why do you think in those
terms? We have a policy and we follow that policy.
Do you believe India has
benefited from that policy?
You know the history of India.
India is a leader of the Non-Aligned Movement. Do you think it is only for the
benefit of India? India has a commitment to the international community.
Jawaharlal Nehru made India a nation, a civil society. Why do you think of it in
business terms and about achieving this and that?
Five million Indians are
working in Arab countries. Are Arabs allowing them to work there only for
benefit? It is because of the emotional and cultural relations we have had with
them.
Some people
believe that Israel can be taken as a role model for its 'counter-terrorism'
operations. What do you think?
I don't think Israel can be
taken as a role model for counter-terrorism operations. Especially because
people there are suffering so much. Moreover, can we say that the Palestinians
are terrorists? India never believed that. There may be individual opinion here
and there, but as a government India has always supported the Palestinian cause.
What is your observation
about the situation in Palestine?
The Palestinians are going
through a lot of hardship and a very difficult situation.
Apart from
medical and other logistics support to Palestine, what role can India play in
the Palestine-Israel conflict?
India will always help
Palestinians whenever and wherever, especially in the humanitarian aspect.
You are
looking after West Asia, a region which has become so volatile. Lots of Indians
are living in the Gulf region. Are you concerned about it? What about their
safety?
We cannot ensure safety from
here. Our people have good relationships with the Arab people and the
governments there. We have a historical relationship with Arabs. The governments
there will take care of it. I am an optimist.
*Posted by http://in.rediff.com
on Monday 25 October 2004.